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From: "DONE, CHRISTINE" <chris.done@durham.ac.uk>
Subject: new OM catalog
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From: "DONE, CHRISTINE" <chris.done@durham.ac.uk>
To: "xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int" <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
Subject: new OM catalog
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:47:31 +0000
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not sure this is the right email, but I think the OM catalogue would be muc=
h more useful if the start time was the start time of the OM exposure NOT t=
he start time of the whole observation - I just looked up the OM lightcurve=
 of a famous seyfert to test out the new catalogue and got this (screenshot=
 attached!)

so every OM exposure in the same obsID has the same start time which makes =
it not very useful as a lightcurve,. wouldn't it be better to either bin th=
em all together and give a single number per total exposure or give the ind=
ividual start times of each OM exposure?


cheers

chris



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 but I think the OM catalogue would be much more useful if the start time w=
as the start time of the OM exposure NOT the start time of the whole observ=
ation - I just looked up the OM lightcurve
 of a famous seyfert to test out the new catalogue and got this (screenshot=
 attached!)</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">so every OM exposure in the same
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obsID has the same start time which makes it not very useful as a lightcurv=
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 number per total exposure or give
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From: Nora Loiseau <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
To: chris.done@durham.ac.uk
Subject: Re: new OM catalog (PR#84181)
Date: Tue Oct 23 09:52:43 2018
Dear Chris,

Many thanks for your inputs!. There are two or three things involved in your
question...

1) The search that you performed was for sources that have your Sy in the Field
of View. In order to search more precisely sources in the position of your Sy
please use : Target in a circle, with radius of 10 to 15 arcsec. 
In this way you will get for your object one row per observation, with the
combined info for all the filters and the start time of each observation.

2) The OM catalogue does not provide info on the source parameters obtained in
each exposure of each observation but the PPS products do have this information.
Parameters are given for each exposure window.
In order to get those products I would suggest that you first obtain the list of
observations ID that include your object, and then use a script with this
command to get them:

http://nxsa.esac.esa.int/nxsa-sl/servlet/data-action-aio?obsno=0505720401&name=SWSRLI&level=PPS

3) We will put in our list to do to show the individual parameters in the table
of OM PPS sources, and maybe later on for a new version of the catalogue the
individual exposure values can be included.

Best regards,

Nora

> 
> not sure this is the right email, but I think the OM catalogue would be
muc=
> h more useful if the start time was the start time of the OM exposure NOT
t=
> he start time of the whole observation - I just looked up the OM
lightcurve=
>  of a famous seyfert to test out the new catalogue and got this
(screenshot=
>  attached!)
> 
> so every OM exposure in the same obsID has the same start time which makes
=
> it not very useful as a lightcurve,. wouldn't it be better to either bin
th=
> em all together and give a single number per total exposure or give the
ind=
> ividual start times of each OM exposure?
> 
> ----
Dr. Nora Loiseau
XMM-Newton User Support Group


Reply 2

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From: Nora Loiseau <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
To: chris.done@durham.ac.uk
Subject: Re: new OM catalog (PR#84181)
Date: Tue Oct 23 18:07:54 2018
Dear Chris,

Also, for your information, there is a SAS task called 	omvariability that can 
be used within omichain to obtain the variability of all the sources from the 
exposures of an observation, and can also be used separately to obtain the 
variability from the exposures in several observations.

Best regards,

Nora


> 
> not sure this is the right email, but I think the OM catalogue would be
muc=
> h more useful if the start time was the start time of the OM exposure NOT
t=
> he start time of the whole observation - I just looked up the OM
lightcurve=
>  of a famous seyfert to test out the new catalogue and got this
(screenshot=
>  attached!)
> 
> so every OM exposure in the same obsID has the same start time which makes
=
> it not very useful as a lightcurve,. wouldn't it be better to either bin
th=
> em all together and give a single number per total exposure or give the
ind=
> ividual start times of each OM exposure?
> 
> 
> cheers
> 
> chris
> 
> ----
Dr. Nora Loiseau
XMM-Newton User Support Group

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