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From: Mainpal Rajan <mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in>
Subject: needs area file????
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Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 22:22:43 +0530 (IST)
From: Mainpal Rajan <mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in>
To: Nora Loiseau <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
Subject: needs area file????
Dear Nora,
I am sorry to disturb you so much.
This software needs area file.
Kindly look at the problem given below.

mainpal@xray:~/xray/agn/sey1/mrk335/xmm/0306870101/om$ ./grismresp_ubuntu64 
  Name of input spectrum
p0306870101OMS006SPECTR0000.FIT
  Name of output spectrum
06_spec.pi 
  Name of output response matrix
06_resp.rsp
At line 102 of file grismresp.f (unit = 4, file = '........')
Fortran runtime error: File '/OM_UVgrism_efArea.txt' does not exist
mainpal@xray:~/xray/agn/sey1/mrk335/xmm/0306870101/om$ 

One thing I would like to ask .....How I can get average spectrum using all
spectra out of it?

regards
mainpal


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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:47:55 +0100
From: Nora Loiseau <Nora.Loiseau@sciops.esa.int>
To: mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in
CC: xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int
Subject: Re: needs area file???? (PR#75218)
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Dear Mainpal,

sorry, it was my fault, I forgot to send you the area files attached.

Regards,

Nora


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# effective area for OM V_grism (Grism 2)
# from OM_GRISMCAL_0003.CCF
#       A             cm2
      3000.00       4.6479080
      3050.00       5.6170566
      3100.00       6.2026203
      3150.00       7.5134041
      3200.00       8.5264172
      3250.00       8.7925112
      3300.00       9.0036749
      3350.00       9.6130226
      3400.00       10.914874
      3450.00       11.953075
      3500.00       12.996739
      3550.00       14.062225
      3600.00       14.977723
      3650.00       16.180612
      3700.00       17.676153
      3750.00       18.888357
      3800.00       20.282892
      3850.00       20.972280
      3900.00       21.934670
      3950.00       21.753870
      4000.00       23.309448
      4050.00       22.143340
      4100.00       22.177460
      4150.00       22.226879
      4200.00       22.047050
      4250.00       21.553764
      4300.00       21.155972
      4350.00       20.753618
      4400.00       20.344827
      4450.00       20.570886
      4500.00       20.000022
      4550.00       19.639584
      4600.00       18.977532
      4650.00       18.198025
      4700.00       16.883967
      4750.00       16.835399
      4800.00       16.045996
      4850.00       15.353840
      4900.00       14.641284
      4950.00       13.905255
      5000.00       13.648491
      5050.00       13.118065
      5100.00       12.819360
      5150.00       11.917155
      5200.00       11.071780
      5250.00       10.874654
      5300.00       10.106056
      5350.00       9.2866635
      5400.00       8.7447815
      5450.00       7.8332085
      5500.00       7.7744026
      5550.00       7.5509064
      5600.00       6.4225889
      5650.00       6.5628692
      5700.00       6.2489947
      5750.00       6.3572789
      5800.00       6.6473541
      5850.00       6.9897039
      5900.00       7.7961645
      5950.00       7.2277019
      6000.00       6.6981964

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# effective area for OM UV_grism (Grism 1)
# from OM_GRISMCAL_0003.CCF
#       A             cm2
      1800.00      0.26942919
      1850.00      0.38499656
      1900.00      0.52856352
      1950.00      0.71087998
      2000.00      0.99223152
      2050.00       1.2741601
      2100.00       1.5967714
      2150.00       1.9010886
      2200.00       2.2136078
      2250.00       2.4771760
      2300.00       2.7646377
      2350.00       3.0189171
      2400.00       3.2701954
      2450.00       3.5084159
      2500.00       3.6974360
      2550.00       3.8469087
      2600.00       4.0338874
      2650.00       4.1323198
      2700.00       4.2210058
      2750.00       4.2717004
      2800.00       4.3179886
      2850.00       4.2345026
      2900.00       4.1946225
      2950.00       4.0785708
      3000.00       4.0154589
      3050.00       3.9496317
      3100.00       3.9264063
      3150.00       3.9364435
      3200.00       3.9741667
      3250.00       3.9896514
      3300.00       3.9550183
      3350.00       4.0146880
      3400.00       3.9663900
      3450.00       4.0040464
      3500.00       4.0772731
      3550.00       4.0665891
      3600.00       3.9984854

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From: Nora Loiseau <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
To: mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in
Subject: Re: needs area file???? (PR#75218)
Date: Wed Nov 19 11:01:40 2014
Dear Mainpal,
> 
> One thing I would like to ask .....How I can get average spectrum using
all
> spectra out of it?
> 

I do not understand what is exactly your question, the spectra produced by the
pipeline or by omgrism are already correct and you can just average them. Anyway
before averaging all of them it is better to have a look at them in case some
have a special problem.

Regards,

Nora



----
Dr. Nora Loiseau
XMM-Newton User Support Group


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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:50:15 +0530 (IST)
From: Mainpal Rajan <mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in>
To: Nora Loiseau <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
Subject: Re: needs area file???? (PR#75218)
Dear Nora,
 Suppose a Grism filter is used multiple times during long observation, then
extracting the spectrum of each Grism exposure I will get multiple spectra from
available grism data. Now I want to get average spectrum using all multiple
grism spectra within the long exposure.
Kindly help me.
regards
mainpal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nora Loiseau" <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
To: mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 4:31:39 PM
Subject: Re: needs area file???? (PR#75218)

Dear Mainpal,
> 
> One thing I would like to ask .....How I can get average spectrum using all
> spectra out of it?
> 

I do not understand what is exactly your question, the spectra produced by the
pipeline or by omgrism are already correct and you can just average them. Anyway
before averaging all of them it is better to have a look at them in case some
have a special problem.

Regards,

Nora



----
Dr. Nora Loiseau
XMM-Newton User Support Group

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From: Nora Loiseau <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
To: mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in
Subject: Re: needs area file???? (PR#75218)
Date: Wed Nov 19 14:09:31 2014
Dear Mainpal,

you can average the spectra directly. Otherwise, XSPEC does not average the
spectra but fits them simultaneously, for more details please check the Xspec
web pages:
 http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/xanadu/xspec/

I understand that Antonio Talavera provided you an averaged spectra for that
object. Are you trying to do something similar for other objects?.

Regards,

Nora



>  Suppose a Grism filter is used multiple times during long observation,
then
> extracting the spectrum of each Grism exposure I will get multiple spectra
from
> available grism data. Now I want to get average spectrum using all
multiple
> grism spectra within the long exposure.
> Kindly help me.
> regards
> mainpal
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nora Loiseau" <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
> To: mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 4:31:39 PM
> Subject: Re: needs area file???? (PR#75218)
> 
> Dear Mainpal,
>> 
>> One thing I would like to ask .....How I can get average spectrum using
all
>> spectra out of it?
>> 
> 
> I do not understand what is exactly your question, the spectra produced by
the
> pipeline or by omgrism are already correct and you can just average them.
Anyway
> before averaging all of them it is better to have a look at them in case
some
> have a special problem.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Nora
> 
> 
> 
> ----
> Dr. Nora Loiseau
> XMM-Newton User Support Group
> 
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:25:56 +0530 (IST)
From: Mainpal Rajan <mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in>
To: Nora Loiseau <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
Subject: Re: needs area file???? (PR#75218)
Dear Nora,
Thank you very much for your help.
Antonio gave me a text file/ averaged spectra  for this case. I find a solution
how to convert txt file to pha, but still facing some problem to use it in xspec
(ASCII2PHA). That file given by Antonio consists wavelength versus flux. But I
could not find flux conversion into count rates for this filter. 

I am trying to find a correlation between UV and X-ray if it there for this
source only. 

regards
mainpal 



----- Original Message -----
From: "Nora Loiseau" <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
To: mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:39:30 PM
Subject: Re: needs area file???? (PR#75218)

Dear Mainpal,

you can average the spectra directly. Otherwise, XSPEC does not average the
spectra but fits them simultaneously, for more details please check the Xspec
web pages:
 http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/xanadu/xspec/

I understand that Antonio Talavera provided you an averaged spectra for that
object. Are you trying to do something similar for other objects?.

Regards,

Nora



>  Suppose a Grism filter is used multiple times during long observation,
then
> extracting the spectrum of each Grism exposure I will get multiple spectra
from
> available grism data. Now I want to get average spectrum using all multiple
> grism spectra within the long exposure.
> Kindly help me.
> regards
> mainpal
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nora Loiseau" <xmmhelp@sciops.esa.int>
> To: mainpal@iucaa.ernet.in
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 4:31:39 PM
> Subject: Re: needs area file???? (PR#75218)
> 
> Dear Mainpal,
>> 
>> One thing I would like to ask .....How I can get average spectrum using
all
>> spectra out of it?
>> 
> 
> I do not understand what is exactly your question, the spectra produced by
the
> pipeline or by omgrism are already correct and you can just average them.
Anyway
> before averaging all of them it is better to have a look at them in case
some
> have a special problem.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Nora
> 
> 
> 
> ----
> Dr. Nora Loiseau
> XMM-Newton User Support Group
> 
> This message and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee
or
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> content is not permitted.
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> 
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> 
> ----
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